Reasons why siege is a very bad idea.

[Sea]

Well the reason we don't have a "Trailer" is because what is there to record? the boats? the small ass spawn? I honestly think if we have the "Natural warzone" replace with like some ruins or dead cities or maybe just a town with shops or just install voxel sniper for a couple of days, make some badass things and claim it as warzone. I'm sure aggravate would love to have at it with voxel sniper being that he wants it so much,

+"Nations at war" Is more of RPG than pure PvP which most of come to love.

 

[Valetino]

Lol, I don't mean the trailer like that, I mean if we had a trailer like that, epic music, well done, stuff like showing what buildings there are , showing battles factions have, stuff like that, just to show the server off.

 

[Sea]

But honestly what DO we have to show off? the best thing was probably the fighting at Atlantis way back. Maybe when half the server teamed up to attack RMM and failed horribly and we don't really build a lot being a PvP server, the admins and mods sure as fuck don't.

Seriously.

Get voxel sniper.

It will make the natural warzones more enjoyable.

Or at least get a pro builder to design and build abandoned towns or sort of "The 4 natural wonders of aggression" if you must.

 

[Playerer]

I like siege.​

/womp​

 

[Velocityshot]

But honestly what DO we have to show off? the best thing was probably the fighting at Atlantis way back. Maybe when half the server teamed up to attack RMM and failed horribly and we don't really build a lot being a PvP server, the admins and mods sure as fuck don't.

Seriously.

Get voxel sniper.

It will make the natural warzones more enjoyable.

Or at least get a pro builder to design and build abandoned towns or sort of "The 4 natural wonders of aggression" if you must.

No idea what the fuck you're talking about. I'm pretty sure my boys Kevo, me, laithes, das, british, seabass, and Jpev beat the fuck outta Atlantis *Jersey shore accent*



I once had a cousin named atlantis, know what I did to him? Beat the fuck outta him.



(If you get that reference then INTERNET BROFISTS TO YOU)

--- merged: Aug 25, 2011 at 5:25 AM ---

Duh, that is because it is my idea, I only come up with good ideas, I ignore the bad ones other than the one to leave the server<3



A lovely faction battle would be much better than siege.



It could be all arranged, a time and a place, our lovely team of admins! could make a place, a snow or land or villiage to fight in, purely to have battles, make things there that you could use while in battle, trenches, tunnels, or just open grass land, also people can have tactics archers/swordsman in places that help.



Also could imagine this, high up, mountains and a long thin bridge, two factions, either side, endless epic fun.



Or, a village, properly made, not some crap of wood or cobble piled, actually have a nice looking place, instead of "siege" could have "battle time", I say this because, I could imagine people be like but who would do battles? it is easier to just mindlessly pick on small factions and get greedy using siege battles like a bunch of Willzinos, I would reply to that with this idea, village war zone, with loot inside homes, so people actually have more than a goal of mindless killing, or of course, go and ruin some newbie faction's base and steal their cobble stacks and apples, I mean I am sure it will be worth completely wrecking someone's base and game play so they think they don't get a chance in hell to even grow on the server and leaving.



Also, you could have a battle but again other than just senseless killing, have a chest or a certain type of block that people need to collect and store in their faction's chest.

(Faction in a area, either side of each other with a chest where they are setting up for battle, this chest being the one they store the block or item that is needed, while the other team does the same, or at least tries, could have time limit, or have something like the first faction to get say...10 slime balls in their chest wins a prize.)



Again, instead of sieges, as instead of just being a copycat server and becoming a default PvP server, you could do events/battle times where you have a team starting on a ship at a beach, who have to go up this beach on to sand/grass and going like 40 blocks of that up to a castle where another faction is, this other faction would be defending a chest with for example a piece of fire that they have to take back to their ship and light a preset piece of netherrack to win the round then switch it around and have endless fun of games and events.



Another idea:3 would be to have two big ships in the middle of the deep ocean, where a faction has their own ship, the factions of course having to battle it out with each other, bows mainly but also swords if wanted, stick a ladder on the side of each ship and have it so people can board each others ship and duel each other, goal being last man standing.



Another idea being, having as many factions as possible, to be in a sort of arena area, with the goal being to get to the middle and stay there for a minute (Admins would need to be around of course:3), but the twist to this would be the fact getting to the middle would be extremely difficult as you could have slow sand in places, water, lava and fire to avoid, as well as mobs, zombie hordes around the middle, skeletons all around, so a very difficult event/battle, but again make it worth while, such as armour for all the member's of the winning faction, coins.



With all these ideas, I would add a wall of fame or "Hall of Champions" a place that looks very epic by itself, but also have shops in their that are cheaper and sell items that no other shop sells, the idea being, only "Champions" could shop their.

Also having like a sign with "Ship Battle" and under the factions that have won it.



To note, personally I think ideas like these are better in general for these reasons, it means team work, which means people working together, getting on together, less rage.

Also should mean that unlike a siege event where people will go for all they can get their greedy hands on, with these evens they all get a piece of the cake, but again with siege people won't group together to fight factions like RMM, but my ideas, logically people will need to work together, no cheat each other and to just join up and battle for the fame, glory and fortune that they could receive.

We all should have stopped replying after this. Would've made him think he typed all this shit for nothing. WOuld've been funny :c

--- merged: Aug 25, 2011 at 5:25 AM ---

Duh, that is because it is my idea, I only come up with good ideas, I ignore the bad ones other than the one to leave the server<3



A lovely faction battle would be much better than siege.



It could be all arranged, a time and a place, our lovely team of admins! could make a place, a snow or land or villiage to fight in, purely to have battles, make things there that you could use while in battle, trenches, tunnels, or just open grass land, also people can have tactics archers/swordsman in places that help.



Also could imagine this, high up, mountains and a long thin bridge, two factions, either side, endless epic fun.



Or, a village, properly made, not some crap of wood or cobble piled, actually have a nice looking place, instead of "siege" could have "battle time", I say this because, I could imagine people be like but who would do battles? it is easier to just mindlessly pick on small factions and get greedy using siege battles like a bunch of Willzinos, I would reply to that with this idea, village war zone, with loot inside homes, so people actually have more than a goal of mindless killing, or of course, go and ruin some newbie faction's base and steal their cobble stacks and apples, I mean I am sure it will be worth completely wrecking someone's base and game play so they think they don't get a chance in hell to even grow on the server and leaving.



Also, you could have a battle but again other than just senseless killing, have a chest or a certain type of block that people need to collect and store in their faction's chest.

(Faction in a area, either side of each other with a chest where they are setting up for battle, this chest being the one they store the block or item that is needed, while the other team does the same, or at least tries, could have time limit, or have something like the first faction to get say...10 slime balls in their chest wins a prize.)



Again, instead of sieges, as instead of just being a copycat server and becoming a default PvP server, you could do events/battle times where you have a team starting on a ship at a beach, who have to go up this beach on to sand/grass and going like 40 blocks of that up to a castle where another faction is, this other faction would be defending a chest with for example a piece of fire that they have to take back to their ship and light a preset piece of netherrack to win the round then switch it around and have endless fun of games and events.



Another idea:3 would be to have two big ships in the middle of the deep ocean, where a faction has their own ship, the factions of course having to battle it out with each other, bows mainly but also swords if wanted, stick a ladder on the side of each ship and have it so people can board each others ship and duel each other, goal being last man standing.



Another idea being, having as many factions as possible, to be in a sort of arena area, with the goal being to get to the middle and stay there for a minute (Admins would need to be around of course:3), but the twist to this would be the fact getting to the middle would be extremely difficult as you could have slow sand in places, water, lava and fire to avoid, as well as mobs, zombie hordes around the middle, skeletons all around, so a very difficult event/battle, but again make it worth while, such as armour for all the member's of the winning faction, coins.



With all these ideas, I would add a wall of fame or "Hall of Champions" a place that looks very epic by itself, but also have shops in their that are cheaper and sell items that no other shop sells, the idea being, only "Champions" could shop their.

Also having like a sign with "Ship Battle" and under the factions that have won it.



To note, personally I think ideas like these are better in general for these reasons, it means team work, which means people working together, getting on together, less rage.

Also should mean that unlike a siege event where people will go for all they can get their greedy hands on, with these evens they all get a piece of the cake, but again with siege people won't group together to fight factions like RMM, but my ideas, logically people will need to work together, no cheat each other and to just join up and battle for the fame, glory and fortune that they could receive.

We all should have stopped replying after this. Would've made him think he typed all this shit for nothing. WOuld've been funny :c

 

[Admin]

Yes, I was writing mine before yours was posted.



P.S. Why is the RMM the only faction ever used in explenations? I mean Raze had 27 or so members, and Heavies had 34 at one point. It's not like we're the only large faction out there.

Keyword being HAD.

 

[Laithes]

Lol, I don't mean the trailer like that, I mean if we had a trailer like that, epic music, well done, stuff like showing what buildings there are , showing battles factions have, stuff like that, just to show the server off.

Lol battles, you can't fight anyone if they pussy out and hide before shit gets interesting. I mean, you can't wage a war on a guy relaxing in his basement where you can't get him. And unless you count the spawn zerg rushes as battles, there's nothing else significant to show. Can't really show base conquests, because the only way to do so is if you leave some doors open.

 

[Valetino]

I am confused on how you lot are thinking, although, I won't be told I am wrong and that my view is incorrect so that may also be the problem, but my logic is that seige is being added to add things to the server along with other changes as well as to have a event time, this does very little to mkae the server more PvP



I can say "RMM sucks ass and are a bunch of pussies" you can't do anything to me ever, if I stay in my base, seige comes along? I just log out for the time being, come back, "You pussies" I mean, this worked for Willzino and the Viking lot, they were online when in numbers and had their little traps and their little cowardly tactics, but when in trouble they would just be offline.

There was a lot of PvP when Sandman, Den Den, and Jord and Vikings were around, each time you logged on, there was PvP going on.



Also, what about Zerg? so siege time comes, they can either stay offline or be online and most likely handle theirselves perfectly well against people that may try to attack them, then after they carry on killing people with traps and just happily stay in their base while lol'ing at people raging at them.



Siege adds more pvp at a certain time of day? a couple days a week? as long as people come online that time?

So we just wait a week while we moan and complain how the server has little pvp then siege time comes and we fight then wait another week moaning and complaining that pvp only happens a few times a week?

 

[mark_577]

No siege. Ill explain later im tired.

 

[Valetino]

Mark has a point, no siege.

 

[Velocityshot]

If I were allowed to build and stuff, I could go on the events server, build a huge castle, supply weapons and arrows, hire 4high quality filmers, and then we could put some epic music in there.



That'd be cool . .. .wait what are we talking about?

--- merged: Aug 25, 2011 at 7:29 PM ---

But on the Events server so nothing would be harmed. Someone should ask Erskew to go do that lol

 

[Valetino]

What?...........

 

[Velocityshot]

We could still have a siege event, without all the reasons of QQ and ragequit

--- merged: Aug 25, 2011 at 8:46 PM ---

We could still have a siege event, without all the reasons of QQ and ragequit

 

[Valetino]

No, QQ and rage quitting can't be escaped unless we don't do siege.

 

[Velocityshot]

Not if its a planned event on the events server.

 

[Valetino]

Hm, ok.

 

[erskew]

But honestly what DO we have to show off? the best thing was probably the fighting at Atlantis way back. Maybe when half the server teamed up to attack RMM and failed horribly and we don't really build a lot being a PvP server, the admins and mods sure as fuck don't.

Seriously.

Get voxel sniper.

It will make the natural warzones more enjoyable.

Or at least get a pro builder to design and build abandoned towns or sort of "The 4 natural wonders of aggression" if you must.

Just wait, the warzones will look great. 😉

 

[Dannie]

Due to the lack of support of the raid system we have decided to remove it from the 1.8 notes.

Our last intention was to displease our veteran, active members. Thanks for contributing to this thread, those who did and I urge you to keep contributing to the already developed ideas. Mostly we want feedback on spawning at graveyards instead of a setpoint / spawn etc.

- Dannie | Aggression Administration

 

[Valetino]

"I urge you to keep contributing to the already developed ideas."



Alright guys and girls!

Next on the agenda, paying to use /f home and commands like that.

This will use far to much money up, even if you have loads, you would feel the hole in your pocket made by this change, I mean...come on, in these times, we can't throw away money just because we want to come to spawn or our base, we have families to feed and bills to pay, how are we meant to cope with such a crazy change?!



So many changes and so many people talking in private about them.

People are beginning to talk about this money going to waste (or is it?) change....

 

[Dannie]

Next on the agenda, paying to use /f home and commands like that.

Paying to '/f home' was removed on the 13th August.

Next.