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Im not a fan of tablets, laptops are nice however. :)



and a nice little wall of text I would like to throw out.

you may see AMD return to the K10.5 and improve it. Why you ask?



Well lets look at intel. they have been improving on the P6 Architecture (Pentium Pro, 1995) up untill they thought "Lets build a new architecture from the ground up!" so they built the Netburst Architecture (Pentium 4). which was frankly.. shit due to thermals and power consumption and low efficiency.



So they went back to the PIII version of the P6 Architecture, and improved it to make the Pentium M due to they needed an efficient processor in laptops as the P4's thermals was just too high. Add in more improvements and you got Core/Core2, and if you look hard enough amongst all the improvements/additions, even Nehalem and Sandy Bridge is based on an architecture made back in 1995. However, Intel did get some good things out of Netburst, which is being used in their modern CPU's which would be Hyperthreading, Aggressive branch predictor, and QDR (Which was replaced with Nehalem with a integrated memory controller and Quickpath Interconnect. With Lynnfield and Sandy Bridge nomming the entire north bridge into the CPU.



I think AMD will learn that their idea of "Lets make a radically new architecture that can clock like hell!" is stupid. and may (I hope... for their CPU operations survival!) they take what they have learned with Bulldozer. and go back to improving their Phenom II.



Right now if Intel really wanted to fuck over AMD, it would drop the prices on its chipset/CPU. as its cheaper to make motherboards with just a Southbridge chip. AMD still uses a North and South bridge. (which is sorta a mixed result) It is more expensive but it allows for them to keep compatibility easily, unlike Intel who has to change socket configurations with almost every update as the CPU also does the task of the Northbridge.
 
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I think I will still look un-approving when I hear about AMDs used(and say that it might explode), and I will still be using nVidia and Intel's stuff. Probably because I've used it for my entire life.



Don't let this htread die, guys, let's find something else to debate about processors!
 

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they were pretty competitive until Intel introduced their 'Tick-Tock' releases



AMD needs to do similar if they really wish to compete.



As for me I have used Intel all my life, but since I am not really a fanboy I would get whatever works when i go to buy ^_^
 
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And I would buy Intel stuff because I know their designations, and don't have a clue about AMD's. And I'm too lazy to google them/ask you/anyone else who knows about them.
 

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kind of a moot point to mention that. everyone changes designations surprisingly often :p its a marketing thing not a performance thing.
 

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ill agree, Phenom II wasn't bad, Intel tramples it with SandyBridge. but compared to Nehalem (first gen i5/i7) it was a cheaper alternative to near identical gaming performance (Guess what, most games wont care what CPU you use as long as its above a Core 2 Duo, the money saved can go into a better graphics card)
 

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ill agree, Phenom II wasn't bad, Intel tramples it with SandyBridge. but compared to Nehalem (first gen i5/i7) it was a cheaper alternative to near identical gaming performance (Guess what, most games wont care what CPU you use as long as its above a Core 2 Duo, the money saved can go into a better graphics card)

lol I have 4 6870's
 

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...Why? considering it is a stupid waste of money when it will most likely be weaker than a single card in about oh.. a year to two years.
 

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1: Why not?

2: I mine for bitcoins in the hope they go back up in price ;)

3: If that's your argument (will be as powerful as x in x) then why buy any technology

4: They were cheap
 

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hmm. how much was the system? :p



and my argument for #3 is it is better to go for price/performance. and upgrade a system instead of dumping it all in at once ^_^
 

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$222 1090T

$92.99 H70

$167.99 MSi 790FX

$193.98 G Skill RAM

$269.99 Corsair 1200AX

$154.99 Antec 1200

$749.95 5 WD Blacks 2TB

$150 Vertex II 120GB

$700 4 6870's

Not including the gift cards I received when I made the purchases

And a bunch of other things that I don't feel like listing lol
 

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I've actually spent a good deal more because I've made a lot of upgrades over the years but that's how much I've spent on the hardware inside that desktop right now
 
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